Taylor Swift’s Upcoming Album Title Is Very Similar To The Name Of A Group Chat Her Ex Joe Alwyn Once Mentioned Being In, And People Don’t Think That’s A Coincidence

The controversial album title comes soon after Taylor and her inner circle were accused of shading Joe more than six months after their split.

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Last April, pop culture lovers everywhere were left shocked when it was announced that Taylor Swift had split from her boyfriend Joe Alwyn after more than six and a half incredibly private years together.

Close-up of Taylor and Joe at a table at an event

While neither Taylor nor Joe ever discussed their relationship in the media, and they were rarely even pictured together, Taylor did not hide the fact that he was her muse, and gave fans an intimate insight into their relationship through her music.

Close-up of Taylor and Joe embracing

The apparent reckoning started in May, when Taylor appeared to shed some light on what had happened between her and Joe by releasing a new song called “You’re Losing Me.”

Close-up of Taylor on her knees onstage

However, in November, Joe was back in the headlines after Taylor’s longtime friend and collaborator Jack Antonoff randomly revealed that “You’re Losing Me” had actually been written and recorded long before Taylor and Joe’s split.

IG story screenshot of Taylor in a kitchen with text "you're losing me is out today; a very special track from the midnights sessions that's finally steaming! written and recorded at home on 12/5/21 right after taylor ate these raisins"
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The following day, Taylor’s publicist, Tree Paine, added to the whirlwind when she issued an angry tweet denying speculation that Taylor and Joe had secretly gotten married before their split.

Close-up of Joe against a leafy background

When asked about the seriously public way that her romance with Travis had unfolded, Taylor said, “When you say a relationship is public, that means I’m going to see him do what he loves, we’re showing up for each other — other people are there and we don’t care.”

Close-up of Taylor onstage in a spangly bodysuit

Her fans immediately caught on to her apparent changing of the narrative and discussed it on X, formerly known as Twitter, at the time. One person tweeted, “love the track-by-track j0e erasure. first sweet nothing now this.”

Close-up of Taylor and Joe holding hands as they exit a car

As she accepted the award for Best Pop Vocal Album at the ceremony, Taylor said, "I want to say thank you to the fans by telling you a secret that I have been keeping from you for the last two years, which is that my brand-new album comes out April 19. It’s called The Tortured Poets Department.”

Close-up of Taylor onstage holding a Grammy

And this theory was all but confirmed when people remembered an interview that Joe had done with Irish actor Paul Mescal, where it was revealed that they and Andrew Scott have a WhatsApp group chat that just might have been the inspiration behind Taylor’s upcoming album’s name.

Joe Alwyn and Paul Mescal have a WhatsApp group with Andrew Scott called "The Tortured Man Club."

"It hasn't had much use recently," Alwyn says.
"I feel like we're less tortured now," Mescal quips. https://t.co/CSai4ScQpz pic.twitter.com/veCp1ZdFsD

— Variety (@Variety) December 15, 2022
Variety / Via Twitter: @Variety

In the 2022 Variety interview, Paul asked Joe, “What’s the name of the group chat that we’re in?” Joe laughed before answering, “Tortured Man Club, I think.”

“It hasn’t had much use recently,” Joe added at the time, with Paul agreeing: “No, I feel like we are less tortured now.”

Paul then revealed that it was Andrew who started the group and chose the name, which is believed to have been inspired by the forlorn characters that he, Joe, and Paul have portrayed onscreen.

Suffice to say, many believe that Taylor’s incredibly similar album title is not a coincidence — and it has seriously divided people.

Close-up of Taylor at a media event

But others found the move more questionable, with some asking why Taylor would do something like this after repeatedly expressing her anger at people relating her music to the men she has publicly dated.

Close-up of Joe at a media event

Tortured Poets Department is due for release April 19.

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