Grimes Said That Elon Musk Is “Unhappy With Woke People” As She Broke Down The Conversation They Had After He Shared Those Controversial Tweets About Transgender Identity

“It came down to pretty much every way that you transition can cause fertility issues. I was like, ‘OK, you don’t hate trans people, you hate woke culture.’”

Grimes is reflecting on the “long conversation” she had with her ex, Elon Musk, about his controversial tweets on transgender identity.

The former couple on the red carpet

For context, Elon has repeatedly come under fire for making a bunch of ignorant remarks over the years. In July 2020, he tweeted, “Pronouns suck.” Shortly afterward, Grimes — who shares two kids with Elon — publicly called him out, replying, “I love you but please turn off ur phone or give me a [call]. I cannot support hate. Please stop this. I know this isn't your heart.”

Pronouns suck

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 25, 2020
Twitter: @elonmusk

In December that year, Elon caused a stir once again after sharing a cartoon of a soldier smearing blood on his face while sporting the slogan, “I love to oppress.” The caption read, “When you put he/him in ur bio.” A few days after, he tweeted, “I absolutely support trans, but all these pronouns are an esthetic nightmare.”

A closeup of Elon

What’s more, since Elon took over Twitter last year (and later renamed it X), the platform has quietly removed its policy against misgendering trans people — a rule that was put in place to protect the LGBTQ+ community.

Elon holding a mic

Elon also publicly urged “every parent” to watch the Daily Wire’s controversial documentary What Is a Woman?, which is presented by right-wing commentator Matt Walsh, before later calling the term “cisgender” a “slur.”

Repeated, targeted harassment against any account will cause the harassing accounts to receive, at minimum, temporary suspensions.

The words “cis” or “cisgender” are considered slurs on this platform.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 21, 2023
Twitter: @elonmusk

Needless to say, Elon’s posts have received heaps of backlash over the years — especially due to the fact that he has a transgender daughter who legally filed to sever all ties with him in April last year.

Elon’s daughter submitted a petition in LA County shortly after her 18th birthday for a change of name, a recognition of change of gender, and the issuance of a new birth certificate. She listed her reasoning behind the name change: “Gender identity and the fact that I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form.”

Elon later blamed their estranged relationship on the way students are being taught in schools, telling the Financial Times, “It’s full-on communism — and a general sentiment that if you’re rich, you’re evil.” He went on to note that he has “very good relationships” with his other nine children, before quipping, “Can't win them all.”

With all this in mind, fans were intrigued to see what Elon’s ex, Grimes, had to say about his remarks on transgender identity when she sat down with Wired for a wide-ranging interview this week.

The former couple on the red carpet

During the conversation, Grimes was asked if she’d ever spoken to Elon about feeling “disturbed” by some of his tweets, perhaps given that she has publicly called him out in the past.

After noting that she didn’t want to discuss the subject too much, Grimes replied, “Take the trans thing. After that, we had a big, long conversation. I was like, ‘I want to dissect why you’re so stressed about this.’”

“Getting to the heart of what Elon says helps me get to the heart of what other people’s issues are, because it’s this über guy situation,” she shared.

The former couple smiling at each other on the red carpet

Grimes went on to say that after speaking with Elon, she feels that he doesn’t “hate trans people,” but instead dislikes that transitioning “can cause fertility issues.”

“And it came down to pretty much every way that you transition can cause fertility issues. I was like, ‘OK, you don’t hate trans people, you hate woke culture,’” she said. “I get that it can be annoying, and you have concerns about the fertility thing.”

“So let’s figure it out, because there’s a lot of fertility tech that could be innovated that would help trans people have kids, which would be great and would solve a lot of problems,” she added. “He’s just on Twitter, and he’s unhappy with woke people, and the arguments happened.”

Grimes was later asked if she’s a “woke person” herself, to which she replied, “Probably not. I don’t know what the term means. I think we need to change the discourse. The more people you can convince that this dichotomy is silly, and an out-of-date fight, the better. The root cause of this is people not resolving mental health stuff the right way.”

Reacting to Grimes’ quotes on Twitter, users were quick to mention Elon’s estranged relationship with his transgender daughter.

“Ah yes, that's definitely the only reason,” someone said of the “fertility issues.” “That's why his daughter refuses to talk to him, and doesn't even consider him a father.”

Ah yes, that's definitely the only reason. That's why his daughter refuses to talk to him, and doesn't even consider him a father. It's just cause infertility, and not the fact he is a raging bigot.👍

— aleksandr 🥘🐢 (@SmokingFakeWeed) August 9, 2023
Twitter: @SmokingFakeWeed

“Yes. Fertility. Elon is concerned about random people’s fertility. Sure. Ok,” one tweet read.

“that was the worst possible answer and she said it like it was gonna make us go ‘o he’s misunderstood :('“ another user wrote.

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